Tuesday, May 13, 2008

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17 comments:

Anonymous said...

I was interested in learning a little bit more about Ibn Khatib, the muslim spanish physicianm, who tried to come up with a medicine to help the black plague. I think his name is also spelled Ibn al-Khatib. He seemed to have written something called On the Plague. I looked for links but I could not find much about him.

If the Jews were accused of poisoning the Christian's to make them die out and have Judaism flourish then why did the pope back up the Jews?

I don't know what anti Semitism is so I figured I would look that concept up. I found that basically anti-Semitism is the hatred of Jews. Did all of this hatred stem off of the assumptions about what the Jews did ? This site is really good in explaining what anti-Semitism. Just look at the first roman numeral about anti Semitism.

This is a good link for a picture that has the gold trade routes on there in Mali. It also tells you a little bit about how people traveled and traded in the Sahara desert.

Anonymous said...

After I read the part in the reading about the Pope threatening to excommunicate anyone who hurt the Jews, I wondered if people continued to blame them or not. I also noticed how unadvanced their medical system was back then. All the treatments they describe just show us they had no idea what they were doing. I was going to look up anti semitism but I've got it now. I also thought it wa interesting how women being secluded actually helped them. Since they werent exposed to as many things they werent exposed to the Black Death as often so men suffered more from the disease. In the last part of the second reading I thought Mansa Musa was pretty harsh. He seemed so giving in Cairo but in his home he seems awful to me.

Anonymous said...

Questions:
1. In China, it said along with the plague there were other natural disasters. What other natural disasters occurred at this time ?
2. Why did the Turks cut off the heads? What use was the "green glands"
3. How were there winners and losers of the plague?
4. Why was the death rate for men higher?
5. On page 470, Ibn Buttuta described the children chained until they learned the Koran. Is this a metaphor or reality?

The link below gives a big overview of the Plague. I was looking up other treatments, and about half way down the page if gives some information about treating the black Death.
http://everything2.com/title/black%2520death

I was wondering more about Millenarianism, and Wikipedia gives a better/easier to understand explanation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism

I was also wondering more about Ibn Battuta. I found the link below and it gives a brief story of his life.
http://www.ummah.net/history/scholars/ibn_battuta/

Anonymous said...

Posted by Kristen
I found it very interesting what the people of the Middle Ages thought were good treatments. I also was surprised that the plaque actually helped women because the property law had to ensure them enough to survive.
Sundiata, known as Sundiata Keita- founded Mali empire. He was Muslim, but also exploited local religion and got a reputation as a man of powerful magic. When he was little there was a harsh ruler ruling Mali. While he grew up he built up an army to take over.

Anonymous said...

What was the practice that seemed to work the best in treating the plague?

Did the Jews get anything good from the plague or was it just all bad?

Were there any instances of where a woman would do something to become a widow and therefore wealthy (did something to the husband)?

Below is a site that talks about the Plague. I found it helpful because it mentions some of the benefits that people got out of it:
http://www.britainexpress.com/History/medieval/black-death.htm

Anonymous said...

While reading I became curious on why Mali was un affected by the plague. I was interested because I knew that many of the people in Europe would have fled to other countries, but how it didn’t some how spread to Mali by people or animals. I have already researched the symptoms and signs of the Black Death but I was curious on the cures used by the doctors. I found that one treatment was liquor, it was commonly applied as a remedy for the Black Death, as a result, the rise of liquor in Europe rose dramatically after the plague. I also found that most plague doctors were essentially volunteers, as qualified doctors had already fled, knowing they could do nothing for those affected.

Anonymous said...

1. I was wondering about Clement, who was more tolerent towards other religions and protected the Jews. SO, I found a picture of him. He is protrayed very compassionately.

2. I also found a Wikipedia article about the Wife of Bath Tale. It is by Chaucer, and is about the role of women during the Middle Ages.

3. I was also wondering about the treatment of the plague during the time. And, while I was searching I discovered that the Ring Around the Rosies is called that because the boils were shaped like roses.

Anonymous said...

On page 455 it says that they are looking for a cure for the plague.

1. How did the Plague end?

On page 456 the Jews were like the underdog in the fight of the Plague. The Germans blamed the cause of the Plague on them, and killed them. It kind of reminded me of the Holocaust.

1.Why did everyone turn against the Jews?(was it because of their religion or what?)

3. Who is Sundiata?

Here is a website with some more information about him.

Anonymous said...

I thought it was interesting how many people benefited the plague.

The phrase "revolutionary millenarianism" was found on page 459. Could we touch base with this phrase in class?

As I was reading I noticed how on page 461 it said "In terms of effects, the plague was a regional phenomenon, changing the history of China, Western Europe, the Middle East, and the steppe land empires. " <-- I was just thinking about how did the plague affect each one of these places and if the effects were the same or if they were different.

Anonymous said...

Posted by Zach

I was interested in learning more about Ibn Battuta, the "relentless traveler."

First, here is some information on him:
Wikipedia

I also learned that there is a crater on the moon named after him,
Moon Crater

Finally, I found some videos that current 9th graders at CA made in 7th grade, regarding Ibn Battuta
Videos

Anonymous said...

I was curious about the treatments for the bubonic plague and I found
the plague was cured by burning the buboes with blood-hot iron rod, which was a barbaric method but did save many lives. That lead me to become more curious about ibn khaldun. I found
Abu Abdullah Muhammad Ibn Battuta, also known as Shams ad - Din, was born at Tangier, Morocco, on the 24th February 1304 C.E. (703 Hijra). He left Tangier on Thursday, 14th June, 1325 C.E. (2nd Rajab 725 A.H.), when he was twenty one years of age. His travels lasted for about thirty years, after which he returned to Fez, Morocco at the court of Sultan Abu 'Inan and dictated accounts of his journeys to Ibn Juzay. These are known as the famous Travels (Rihala) of Ibn Battuta. He died at Fez in 1369 C.E.
Ibn Battuta was the only medieval traveller who is known to have visited the lands of every Muslim ruler of his time. He also travelled in Ceylon (present Sri Lanka), China and Byzantium and South Russia. The mere extent of his travels is estimated at no less than 75,000 miles, a figure which is not likely to have been surpassed before the age of steam.

Anonymous said...

As I was reading, I was curious about learning more about Clement. After looking through Wikipedia, I found a link to all of the Church leaders.

I was also curious about cures for the Black Death. I came across this
sire that explained some of the ridiculous cures.

Anonymous said...

I was interested in modern day cures for the black plague.
"In 1932, with sulphonamide drugs, there was finally an effective treatment for the plague. Yet, within 50 years, there were reports – persistent, though unconfirmed – that a strain of plague bacillus resistant to all medicinal and control measures had been developed for bacteriological warfare by the US army." SITE
Also I was interested more in the European interest in african gold.
gold please

Anonymous said...

After reading, I was curious as to more about Ibn Battuta, the "relentless traveler". Here is a link about him:
http://www.sfusd.edu/schwww/sch618/Ibn_Battuta/Ibn_Battuta_Rihla.html
I found it interesting that no one knew what he looked like, other than that he had a beard... what does that maybe suggest about him?

Also, I know there have been a few cases since the 1300s and they have been cured. I found this website about cures for the Black Death:
http://www.sfusd.edu/schwww/sch618/Ibn_Battuta/Ibn_Battuta_Rihla.html
All of them seem kind of ancient... nothing says "inject with peptoklicenurgenisotope"

2 comments:
1. Sorry, the links still aren't working for me
2. I thought I had posted last night, but i noticed just now that it wasn't there, so I'm posting again to see if it works

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Unknown said...

I read the caption about the Wife of Bath and was interested in what the tale was. The tale is the 6th story in the Canterbury Tales, a set of stories that were written by Geoffrey Chaucer. This is a famous image of the Wife of Bath.

Anonymous said...

All right.
I was wondering if Pope Clement VI said that the Jews were innocent but then England had previously expelled all Jews that hadn't converted to Christianity. Is this another example of a power struggle between a king and the Pope? Also, why the change of heart?
One more thing.
How did the Black Death effect the economic situation of the world?